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Identity vs self

  • SELF is more often used to refer to people’s beliefs about themselves, about their own ideas of who they are, and their personal characteristics, abilities, experiences, emotions and agendas. SELF is the underlying and overarching set of phenomena that exist in a greater context, are often most obvious to others, and includes our subconscious, conscious, and superconscious layers of being.
  • Our IDENTITY locates us in a world made up of different groups of people, and usually concerns the social groups and categories to which we do and do not belong. Our identity is affected by the importance of these groups to our sense of who we are and our attachment to these groups. IDENTITY is the persona we think we have chosen, believe ourselves to be, and socialize with the validators of.
 

Identity

Story =/= your identity "We all have a story. Our story doesn't define us. It's who we were yesterday. It doesn't determine who we choose to be today, or tomorrow. Don't over-identify with your story." (CeciliaBe)
Your choices shape your identity, not the other way around. https://robkhenderson.substack.com/p/31-lessons-from-31-years?s=r
“You’re under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago” — Alan Watts
Everyone has their past stories to tell. But in the end, they’re just stories. They don’t define who we are, so we shouldn’t over-identify ourselves with our stories or even the choices that we make. None of them shape our identity in any shape or form. Our identity is not constant anyway. Like Alan Watts put it, we’re under no obligation to be the same person as we were even 5 minutes ago.
 
Multifaceted identity is ok. Our identities are never constant.
Since our identities are always changing, being multifaceted is okay too. In fact, if we do have multiple identities, we won’t be too fixated on one identity such as tying our identity to our job.
We shouldn't tie our identity to our job. Burnouts and more. https://twitter.com/joulee/status/1377645731515822081
 
Like iron, our identities only become clearer once they’re put through the fire of experiences. To die, decombust, recombine, and renew upon ever-compounding plateaus of self-knowledge. As a result, they are never fixed or homogeneous in nature. Your personal identity portfolio is never locked into one final permutation. https://wellnesswisdom.substack.com/p/-wellness-wisdom-vol26-dont-make
 
The narrower the identity you choose for yourself, the more everything will seem to threaten you. For that reason, define yourself in the simplest and broadest terms possible. https://twitter.com/IAmMarkManson/status/1338151445091274752
 

Different identities

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Juggling careers and identities (how when we have different interests, it’s harder to define us so it’s harder for people to put us in a box, and the lesser you burnout and stress because you do different things and your identity isn’t tied to only just work. you have different friend groups so you also spread your identity and pieces of yourself out to different to different places so you don’t feel that restrained. So it almost feels FINE that you’re not the best at what you do because you have many interests - this is how I feel)
 
I’ve been striving for authenticity to be someone who aligns with who I am and my values, but I learned that perhaps it’s fine that I am who I am now, I contain multitudes. The version of my past, present, and future are still all me. I’m capable of being multiple versions of myself and that’s perfectly fine
the concept of being a "fake" version of yourself is fundamentally incoherent anything that you do merely demonstrates that a facet of you can do that thing - you contain multitudes, is all — https://twitter.com/imperialauditor/status/1546882119007354880
 
But it’s INFURIATING when people tell you to be yourself, but no NOT like that, as if you still need to “be yourself” within the accept boundary that society accepts. What’s the point in that? No wonder people are so caught up with exploring and finding who they are. Because they’re used to covering up their real selves that it’s already buried deep inside their unconsciousness.
Telling people to “just be themselves” under the pretense that their failure to do so is a personal moral shortcoming and not a consequence of their being in a pvp battlefield when nearly everything wants them to be smth else is a CRIME — https://twitter.com/nosilverv/status/1544611954991439875
 

Self

You don’t “find” yourself, you create yourself.
instead of finding and discovering yourself, why not INVENT yourself? We are asking people to discover themselves—a hard problem. Instead they will invent themselves—which is much easier. So what if the image and the reality diverge? All that matters is the image, anyway.
Go and discover yourself is harder because what are you trying to discover about yourself? You can only find out if you’re actually doing SOMETHING to figure out what you like and want, by trying out different things.
 
maybe part of why your 20s are so hard is that you haven't given up yet on the impossible task of reconciling all the different versions of yourself that exist both in your own head and the many heads of others another element of this is the turmoil that comes with being suddenly inundated with options. also, are you actually capable of forgiving yourself without relying on other people? you're about to find out — Molly
Maybe that’s why we’re so confused in our 20s because we think we need to already have our selves figured out but there are just too many options and too many opinions of others.
Doing personality tests is difficult because I can never tell if I’m answering based on who I truly am, who I truly think I am, or who I’m trying to curate.
Even doing something as personality tests might not give you accurate results because are you trying to be someone or are you answering as truthfully as you can?
 
"Being yourself is a continuous effort. There is always another expectation placed upon you, another person pulling you toward their preferences, another nudge from society to act a certain way. It's a daily battle to be yourself, not merely what the world wants you to be." — James Clear
It’s a constant battle to decide who you want to be when there are always other external factors to tell you what they want you to be. I think this is why once you know who you are, you learn to say no, know what you want or don’t want, and know your boundaries.
once you know who you are, you’re not afraid to part ways with anybody who devalues you. our connections are a direct reflection of how much we love ourselves. / How you do anything is how you do everything, so literally how you do you is the most important thing. — Alyani
 
the process of ‘becoming’ requires you to slowly divorce yourself from your past self. it’s like shedding your existing skin and emerging as something new. everything and anything is allowed to look/feel different. reminder that you’re allowed to change! people surprisingly seem to forget this.. one of the biggest reasons people won’t lean into a direction they’re drawn to is due to a fear of ‘losing’ who they are. but letting a part of yourself go is a necessary step in finding a new part! https://twitter.com/isabelunraveled/status/1583849446315433984
One thing people tend to forget that you’re allowed to change at anytime!
 
A part is not just a temporary emotional state or habitual thought pattern. Instead, it is a discrete and autonomous mental system that has an idiosyncratic range of emotion, style of expression, set of abilities, desires, and view of the world. [It] is as if we each contain a society of people, each of whom is at a different age and has different interests, talents, and temperaments.”
When we name our parts, it gives them an identity and shape. From there, we can more easily locate, understand, and appreciate them. Here’s what you really need to know: our many parts play a role but they are not “us,” and we are not defined by one of them unless we allow ourselves to be. Additionally, our parts are not fixed. They can change and adapt when we begin to understand them, their roles and needs. When we get to know them and accept them, we can assign them new and important roles, ask them to step back in certain situations, and break free from old scripts. That’s the impact of this work. https://www.schlaf.co/parts/
Internal family systems (IFS) helps us manage many parts of ourselves. Everyone has many parts of themselves, but we are not fixed or defined by any of them unless we allow ourselves to be. They are not us, but merely roles that we play.
 
 

 
More comments on the “Self” https://twitter.com/sun_girlxo/status/1566842279570165760
 

 
to want a sense of self/identity, it is mostly shaped by experiences and choices than it is to go “find yourself”. But maybe finding yourself is part of the journey because it might be the self that you once lost.
 
  • We are dynamic, evolving, and fluid. We are shaped by our experiences, choices, and interactions everyday which form our identity.
  • Creating allows for the externalization of internal thoughts, feelings, and values, providing a tangible way to explore and define our identity. 
  • The preferences that you gravitate towards, the things you obsess over, and the patterns you return to are both a mirror and a map. You aren’t just expressing something within you; you are deliberating outwardly and discovering your likes and dislikes in real time. Perhaps your apple is just satisfactory for the task prompted, and you don’t like it all. Why don’t you like it? Do you usually do things this way, with no self-insertion of satisfaction? The process of creation reveals just as much about your limitations as it does your intuitions and all in all the active acceptance of those things.
  • The act of creation inherently forces choice, demanding that we move beyond passive contemplation and translate abstract thoughts into tangible form. Making something necessitates inevitable, decisive, action, compelling us to externalize our internal landscape
  • Creation clarifies. It reveals our true gravitations, the sparks of excitement, and the paths that feel most natural. It is a reckoning with our choices and wields our hand to own our own imprints. By demanding decisions, it solidifies our sense of self as active participants in the world, not just observers.
  • Nussbaum's focus on "capabilities" emphasizes that a fulfilling life involves having the freedom and resources to act in ways that align with one's values via creation. Creating, whether it's art, technology, or social change, allows individuals to exercise these capabilities and shape their own live
  • Creation is nothing but your proof of existence. It is proof we engaged with the world, regardless of how temporary it all is. The physical and conceptual residue of our being resists the inevitable dissolution. There is a sense of continuity and presence in it all, that we didn’t merely pass through, but we actively shaped ourselves and the world around us.
  • Creativity is a part of existence - it is innate. You make as much as you think. To fathom you aren’t someone capable of creation or that it isn’t something that you should care about is a battle with your subconscious. It isn’t performative or just something you do, but is a way of perceiving, feeling and being in which outcomes are just a byproduct.
French philosopher and playwright, Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
“Existence precedes essence.”
He argues that we’re not born with an inherent purpose, but rather, that we forge it through our choices and actions. The crucial externalization of our values, beliefs, and views mean we are actively existing.
It isn’t just about making something; it is about making who we are authentically through commitment to our choices.